Sport and recreation

Sea anglers and angling charter skippers: the wind call, at your height

Know by the evening before if tomorrow is on, with a page to show the customer.

  • An alert if it will blow over my limit mid-trip.
  • Wind by the hour in knots for the ground I'm fishing.

Charter skipper (payer, user); individual angler (shore and boat)

The decision

Decide the evening before whether tomorrow's angling trip goes, and which ground gives shelter.

How often
Daily in season; decision typically the evening before
Your limit, for example
Your own limit: no single published figure, so you set it.
Height that matters
10 m
The number to watch
wind speed and direction

Live, right now, at 10 m

These are the real charts, running for Brandon Bay. Search for your own place to re-point them.

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Shear Glass Brandon Bay · 10 m
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The wind column with your height (10 m) picked out.

Exceedance fan Brandon Bay · 10 m
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Set your own limit in the instrument to see the odds of passing it. Odds at 10 m.

Agreement strip Brandon Bay · 10 m
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Where the weather models agree, and where they do not.

The call you make

As a charter skipper, you decide daily in season whether a trip goes ahead. This decision, typically made the evening before, is completely down to your judgement. It is also your call which fishing ground offers the best shelter for the day's conditions.

A wrong call can mean a lost charter fee and potentially a deposit refund if you have to cancel a trip at short notice. If you go out and conditions worsen unexpectedly, you might have to cut the trip short, disappointing your customers and potentially affecting future bookings. Knowing the wind conditions for tomorrow, by the evening before, is key to your business.

Your customers rely on your experience and judgment. Being able to show them a clear record of the forecast you used to make your decision can build trust and manage expectations, especially when conditions are marginal. This record can be a valuable tool for communicating your decision-making process.

Where the wind actually is for you

For sea angling, the wind at 10 metres above the surface is often the most relevant for assessing surface conditions and comfort on board. The Wind Agent provides wind speeds at 10, 80, 120, and 180 metres, interpolated to your specified working height. This allows you to focus on the wind conditions that directly affect your operations.

Gusts, which are sudden, brief increases in wind speed, can be more impactful than the mean wind speed for comfort and operational stability. The instrument shows gusts alongside the mean wind speed, giving you a complete picture of the wind's behaviour. This distinction is important for anticipating how the boat will handle and how comfortable your passengers will be.

Your operational limit for wind speed is set by you, the skipper. This limit is not a fixed number but your professional judgement based on your boat, your experience, and the specific fishing grounds. The instrument helps you apply your own limit to the forecast, providing a clear indication of when conditions might exceed what you consider acceptable for a trip.

Reading the odds for this work

The instrument shows P(above your limit) by the hour. This is the fraction of ensemble members, out of a total of 50, that exceed your chosen wind speed limit for that specific hour. It helps you understand the likelihood of encountering conditions that are too strong for your planned trip.

For example, if the odds show 20 per cent P(above your limit), it means 10 out of 50 model runs predict wind speeds above your threshold. This might suggest a low risk, allowing you to proceed with confidence for most trips. If the odds are 50 per cent, half of the model runs exceed your limit, indicating a significant chance of challenging conditions. At this level, you might consider alternative, more sheltered fishing grounds or preparing your customers for a potentially rougher day.

If the odds reach 80 per cent, meaning a large majority of the model runs are above your limit, it signals a high probability of unsuitable conditions. At this point, cancelling the trip or rescheduling would likely be the most prudent decision to avoid discomfort for your passengers and potential issues for your vessel. The Agreement Spine shows where the weather models agree and where they do not, giving you insight into the forecast's consistency.

A day with it

This is an example of how you might use The Wind Agent for a day's charter:

Friday 18:00: You check the forecast for Saturday's trip. Your limit is 15 knots. The instrument shows P(above your limit) at 10 metres is 10% for 08:00-12:00, then rises to 30% from 12:00-16:00, and 60% from 16:00 onwards. You decide to go, but plan to fish a more sheltered ground in the afternoon.

Saturday 07:00: You review the morning brief on your Pro plan. The forecast remains similar, confirming your decision to head out. You brief your customers about the afternoon plan.

Saturday 13:00: An alert on your Pro plan notifies you that the wind at 10 metres has increased, and P(above your limit) is now 70% for the next two hours. You decide to move to an even more sheltered spot or head back to port early, rather than risk uncomfortable conditions for your customers.

Saturday 16:00: Back at port, you check the records. The actual wind observed was 18 knots from 14:00-16:00, confirming the forecast's trend. You note this for future reference.

Example: A skipper's day with The Wind Agent

  1. Friday 18:00: You check the forecast for Saturday's trip. Your limit is 15 knots. The instrument shows P(above your limit) at 10 metres is 10% for 08:00-12:00, then rises to 30% from 12:00-16:00, and 60% from 16:00 onwards.
  2. Saturday 07:00: You review the morning brief on your Pro plan. The forecast remains similar, confirming your decision to head out. You brief your customers about the afternoon plan.
  3. Saturday 13:00: An alert on your Pro plan notifies you that the wind at 10 metres has increased, and P(above your limit) is now 70% for the next two hours.
  4. Saturday 13:15: You decide to move to an even more sheltered spot or head back to port early, rather than risk uncomfortable conditions for your customers.
  5. Saturday 16:00: Back at port, you check the records. The actual wind observed was 18 knots from 14:00-16:00, confirming the forecast's trend. You note this for future reference.

Setting your limit from your own document

For charter skippers, your wind speed limit is a personal operational choice, not typically dictated by an external document. It is based on your experience, the characteristics of your vessel, and the comfort level you aim to provide for your passengers. No specific numeric limit is commonly cited for sea angling in Ireland; it is your professional judgment that governs.

When you use the instrument, you will input your chosen wind speed limit in knots. The instrument's preset height for marine applications is 10 metres, which is a common reference height for surface wind conditions. This allows the instrument to calculate the odds of exceeding your specific limit at the height most relevant to your operations.

This personal limit allows you to tailor the forecast information to your exact needs. It ensures that the P(above your limit) calculation directly reflects your operational threshold, helping you make informed decisions about whether to sail, which grounds to fish, or when to return to port.

The record, and why it matters here

The instrument keeps a dated record page of what was forecast, what was observed, the limit you used, and the call you made. This record is important for several reasons in your line of work.

Firstly, it provides a clear, objective account of your decision-making process. If a customer questions a cancellation or a change in plans, you can show them the actual forecast data you used. This transparency can build trust and manage expectations, especially during the storm season from October to March when conditions can be more unpredictable.

Secondly, this record serves as a valuable learning tool. By comparing the forecast with actual observed wind conditions, you can refine your understanding of how different wind speeds impact your specific boat and fishing grounds. Over time, this helps you adjust your personal limits and improve your forecasting judgment.

Finally, having a documented record can be useful for your own operational planning and review. It allows you to track patterns, identify reliable forecasts, and better anticipate challenging conditions for future trips.

Ireland

Ireland's location on the Atlantic coast means that sea angling operations are frequently exposed to dynamic and strong wind conditions. The storm season, typically running from October to March, brings with it an increased likelihood of high winds and challenging surface conditions, making accurate wind forecasting particularly critical for charter skippers.

Met Éireann is Ireland's national forecasting service, providing general weather information. However, for the specific needs of charter skippers, detailed wind forecasts at relevant heights and with probabilistic information can add another layer of decision support. The instrument allows you to apply your own operational limits to the forecast data, tailored to the unique conditions you face.

Understanding the wind at your specific working height and the likelihood of it exceeding your comfort or operational limits is essential for successful sea angling trips in Irish waters. This approach helps you plan effectively, whether you are targeting specific fishing grounds or simply assessing the viability of a day's charter.

Questions people ask

How does the instrument help me explain a cancelled trip to customers?

The instrument provides a dated record page showing the forecast you used, your wind limit, and the decision you made. You can show this record to customers to objectively explain why a trip was cancelled or altered due to expected wind conditions. This transparency helps manage their expectations and demonstrates that your decision was based on professional assessment of the weather data, not just a feeling. It offers a tangible reference point for your communication.

Can I set different wind limits for different fishing grounds?

The instrument allows you to input one wind speed limit at a time for its calculations. While you can adjust this limit as needed, it does not store multiple limits linked to specific locations. If you operate in different fishing grounds that require varied wind thresholds, you would manually change your limit within the instrument to reflect the conditions suitable for each area. This flexibility ensures that the forecast analysis aligns with your specific operational requirements for any given trip.

What if the wind changes suddenly mid-trip?

With the Pro plan, you receive alerts if the forecast wind speed is predicted to exceed your set limit at 10 metres. These alerts are sent to you, allowing you to react promptly to changing conditions. This feature helps you make informed decisions, such as moving to a more sheltered location or returning to port early, before conditions become too challenging for your passengers or vessel. It provides an early warning system for unexpected shifts in wind strength.

How far in advance can I get a reliable wind forecast?

The instrument provides forecasts for several days ahead. While all forecasts have inherent uncertainties, the P(above your limit) feature and the Agreement Spine help you assess the reliability of the forecast for your specific limit. For daily decisions, such as whether to sail tomorrow, the forecast typically offers sufficient detail to make an informed call, especially when reviewed the evening before your trip.

Does the instrument tell me where the sheltered spots are?

The instrument provides wind speed and direction data at your chosen height, but it does not directly identify sheltered fishing grounds. Your knowledge of the local area, combined with the wind direction forecast from the instrument, will allow you to determine which locations offer the best protection from the wind. It gives you the raw data to apply your expertise to the local geography.

What you use today, and what this adds

What you use todayCost
A free forecast appFree
The national weather service forecast and warningsFree

What this adds

  • Frozen record page
  • P(>limit) per hour in knots
  • Alerts at your own limit

Set it up in a minute

Preset
Marine
Height
10 m
Limit
you set it
Place
Brandon Bay
Open the instrument set up for you

ProPro adds alerts before your limit breaks and the 06:00 brief for every site.

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In Ireland

Kilmore Quay and Wicklow charter boats are named in trade press.

Where people in this work talk

Read next

Industry guides

Others in sport and recreation

Sources

  1. IFI media release on angling
  2. Sea Angling Ireland forum (406,000 / EUR 555m)
  3. Booking a charter trip

The Wind Agent shows the wind and the odds. Your limit and the competent person on site make the call.